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A Worse World

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A Worse World

Introduction

We would like the world to become a better place, but quite often we find that it has become a worse place instead.  Even as children, it doesn't take us long to notice that bad things happen: sometimes these bad things 'just happen', and sometimes people make them happen.  And it doesn't take us long to notice that, while we want the world to be a better place, this will not just happen by magic: we need to work to make it happen.  Almost any change we want to see, whatever it is, will take work to achieve.

 

Why do bad things just happen?  One basic reason is entropy.  Things wear down, wear out and break; left to themselves, things tend to become more disordered and less useful.  Another basic reason is that accidents happen.  For both these reasons, the world will become a worse place if we just sit back and do nothing.

 

Why do people do bad things? A common answer is: because they are bad people.  Which may be the case, but just sticking the label 'bad' on people doesn't tell us anything new.  Why do they do bad things?  Because they are bad people.  How do we know they are bad people?  Because they do bad things.  This answer is telling us about how we use language, but not giving us information about the world.  People generally have reasons (although not necessarily good reasons) for why they do things, and the bad things they do are no different.  Some of the factors which conspire to make this a worse world include entropy, accident, ignorance, carelessness, power, pleasure, hierarchy, tribalism and a higher purpose.

 

 

Details

Entropy

Entropy is one of the most basic observations about the observable universe.  The second law of thermodynamics ('Heat cannot of itself pass from one body to a hotter body') describes the classical approach to entropy: it means that the amount of available energy in any closed system always decreases.  The effect of entropy is that things wear down, wear out and break; left to themselves, things tend to become more disordered and less useful. 

 

 

Accident

Accidents occur: the car skids on some spilled oil, and red wine gets spilled on the white carpet.  As a child, I opened my mother's music box while wearing gloves, one of them got caught in the mechanism, and part of it broke.

 

 

Ignorance

We live in a complex, inter-connected world, and don't always appreciate the consequences of our actions.  Some car drivers don't understand that they have to put oil in the car as well as petrol, and the car seems to run perfectly happily, right up to the point where it seizes up.  We have probably all discovered at some point that we have hurt someone quite unintentionally by what we said or did (or what we failed to say or do), because we did not know what the impact would be - and we had no reason to know.  I once upset someone by referring to a Mars Bar, not knowing that they had had a traumatic experience with a Mars Bar when they were younger.

 

 

Carelessness

Sometimes, we simply don't care enough to avoid making the world a worse place.  We can see this being worked out in several ways

  • Selfishness seems to be a moral equivalent to entropy: it takes a significant effort to maintain any meaningful moral standard.  When there are two choices, the morally questionable option is almost always the easier one, so we need to work simply to maintain our existing moral standards.
  • Greed is another form of selfishness: I want this, and I don't care who gets hurt in the process.
  • Sometimes we don't care enough about the future: it is easier to be short-sighted than to pay an immediate cost for long term benefit.

 

Caring for others, and for the future, takes effort, so it is easier to be selfish than selfless: I directly experience my own wellbeing, while the wellbeing of the group is inevitably less personal and less immediate.

 

Carelessness is generally seen as a sort of moral accident: sorry, the cup broke because I wasn't paying attention.  But sometimes we choose not to pay attention, not to make the effort required.  And sometimes, when we have done good, we give ourselves permission to be bad (see this nice summary by Abbas Panjwani).

 

 

Power

Sometimes the suffering which is inflicted on other people is neither accidental nor incidental: sometimes it is deliberate.  There are two main reasons for hurting people: it may be useful or pleasurable.  When it is useful, this is often in the context of exercising power over others.

 

People in power often use suffering - either directly or indirectly - as a means of control. This may be done for very good reasons, or for very selfish reasons, or anything in between.  There are very difficult arguments about the right ways to use suffering when teaching very young children, but in this case the intention is to make the world better:  the child may feel the world is a worse place, but the lesson it has learned ("don't touch the fire") may be a very significant benefit.  With adults, we may harm them as a tool, to be used at times, to ensure they obey promptly, to ensure they remember your position of power over them, and obey you without question.  Sometimes it is important to make people suffer so that, later, you can threaten to hurt people and they will take the threat seriously.

 

Pleasure

It is sadly the case that some people take pleasure in hurting others.  There is often a reason, a justification given for inflicting pain, in addition to the pleasure, so it is not always clear (even to the person concerned) how much the pleasure contributes to the motivation for inflicting pain.  But it seems clear that sometimes people hurt others simply because they enjoy giving pain.  We can often recognize that such people have been damaged in some way when they were young, but whatever reasons there may be for such behaviour, they still cause harm to others.

 

 

Hierarchy

Humans are social creatures: we can hardly survive, and we cannot thrive, without the group, so we have two basic needs - individual success and group success - and, inevitably, those two needs sometimes pull us in different directions.  I am always both competing with and cooperating with the other members of my group: I compete, because whatever you eat is not available for me to eat; I cooperate because when we work together, I can obtain more food than when I work alone.  At the most basic level, individual success means that I survive and reproduce; group success means that my group survives and grows.  Morality, as a social construct, is simply the issue of balancing my own needs against the needs of my group: I am immoral when I put my personal needs above the needs of my group, and I am moral when I put the needs of my group above my own needs.

 

Society naturally forms into a hierarchy; those at the top, with greater power, are both more successful than those at the bottom, and also more able to ensure their future success.  So it is always in the interests of those with the greatest power to maintain the current systems which keep them in power, and to resist and punish anything which threatens, diminishes, questions or challenges their status and power - even if it would benefit the whole group.

 

I benefit from gaining status in my group; I can do that by doing something (probably hard, costly or dangerous) which benefits the group, or I can do it by undermining the status of other individuals in the group; it's easier to undermine others.  And I benefit if others in the group are unwilling to do anything to harm me: they will be less willing to harm me if they know I have taken revenge on people who have harmed me in the past.

 

The group benefits if it has rules which ensure that people act in the group's interests, and punishes people for breaking those rules.  And I benefit if I can gain from breaking those rules without getting caught.

 

 

Tribalism

My group is not the only group, but my success is only tied to the success of my group.  Just as I am in competition with the other members of my group, so my group is in competition with other groups for the local resources; only once society is far developed does cooperation between groups start to provide me with any significant benefit, so I am by nature tribal - I understand success instinctively in terms of the success of my tribe, which basically means beating the other tribes when we come into contact with them.

 

All of these pressures drive me to harm other members of my group at times, and members of other groups when I get the chance.

 

 

Higher Purpose

I may find myself driven to harm others if I am pursuing a moral goal, a 'greater good', and it becomes necessary for people to be harmed in the process.  Utilitarianism is our default tool for making ethical choices, and it tells us we must harm others when, by doing so, we can obtain a greater good for the majority.  This turns out to be the case, surprisingly often.  Or it tells us we must hurt people now to help them in the long run: "I'm doing this for your own good."   With practice, we can justify hurting other people a great deal.

 

The Higher Purpose excuse is often paired with others. 

  • One obvious example combines Higher Purpose with Hierarchy and Tribalism: the prison camp guards who excused their participation in genocide because "I was only following orders."
  • Another obvious example combines Higher Purpose with Power: when you seek revenge, you demonstrate to the other person that they cannot treat you this way with impunity, and you also claim that your action is justified by their behaviour.  It seems right to harm someone ("He got what was coming to him") - he needed to be punished in order to achieve some kind of justice.  The person seeking revenge generally sees it as a way to 'balance the books', which is a moral objective.

 

 

 


Brian's EDIT (Temporary)

 

This is a version starting from Paul's original.  Hopefully it will add something rather than just rephrase things - we shall see.

 

My style is perhaps a little more "homespun" - which curiously can drop into being overly formal.   I will try to avoid these two extremes and try to exposit matters as openly and as directly as I can through a combination of stories, illustrations and even pictures and diagrams.

 

A Worse World?

 

Introduction

 

A basic observation of reality - and effectively a given - is that everyone has good and bad days.   It's not all bad, of course - but for many, the bad days outnumber the good ones.  Sometimes they just happen, and sometimes (other) people make them happen.

 

Bad things just happen, but why? 

We all desire the world to be a better place, and recognize that this will not just happen by magic: we need to work to make it happen, partly because it is almost always hard to achieve a desired change - people have differing priorities, differing objectives and differing ways of doing stuff and making things happen.

 

The other major source of friction to change is quite simply entropy.  This is the overall tendency for things to wear down, to wear out and break.  Left to themselves, physical things tend to become more disordered and less useful.   Even non-physical things can appear to age and decay, because they become less suited to their envionment and increasingly fail to operate according to prevailing expectations.  The upshot of all this is that there is a constant, persistant need to do work to rebuild and reform it, because the world will become a worse place if we just sit back and do nothing.

 

This is also related to the Red Queen effect (from evolutionary biology).

 

People do bad things, but why?

 A common answer is: because they are bad people.  Which might be the case, but it is of course mostly circular reasoning, a bit like saying: "This person is bad because they do bad things -and- they do bad things because they are bad people."  The hard fact is that life and people are far more complicated and intertwined than that.  People generally have reasons (albeit not necessarily good ones) for why they do things, so let's explore some of those.

 

Moral Entropy and Selfishness

There is a moral equivalent to physical entropy: it takes a significant effort to maintain any significant moral standard.  When there are two choices, the morally questionable option is almost always the easier one, so we need to work simply to maintain our existing moral standards.

 

There are reasons why the morally questionable option is almost always the easier one!

 

  • For example, humans are social creatures: we can hardly survive, and we cannot thrive, without the group, so we have two basic needs - individual success and group success.

 

  • Inevitably, those two needs will pull us in different directions.   I am always both competing with and cooperating with the other members of my group: I compete, because whatever you eat is not available for me to eat; I cooperate because when we work together, I can obtain more food than when I work alone.  At the most basic level, individual success means that I survive and reproduce; group success means that my group survives and grows.

 

  • Morality, as a social construct, is simply the issue of balancing my own needs against the needs of my group: I am immoral when I put my personal needs above the needs of my group, and I am moral when I put the needs of my group above my own needs.

 

In addition, modern psychology has pointed towards the existence of a moral calculus - arguing to some extent that it is often simply easier to follow morally suspect actions.  Two famous (or infamous?) social psychology experiments have lent support for this view: The Milgram Shock Experiment and the Stanford Prison Experiment.   Both were performed in the infancy of modern psychology and have earned a certain notoriety as neither would now be ethically permissable.

 

  • It is easier to be selfish than selfless: I directly experience my own wellbeing, while the wellbeing of the group is inevitably less personal and less immediate.

 

  • It is easier to be short-sighted than to pay an immediate cost for long term benefit.

 

  • I benefit from gaining status in my group; I can do that by doing something (probably hard, costly or dangerous) which benefits the group, or I can do it by undermining the status of other individuals in the group; broadly speaking, it's easier to undermine others.

 

  • I benefit if others in the group are unwilling to do anything to harm me: they will be less willing to harm me if they know I have taken revenge on people who have harmed me in the past.

 

Hierarchy and Tribalism

Society naturally forms into a hierarchy; those at the top, with greater power, are both more successful than those at the bottom, and also more able to ensure their future success.  So it is always in the interests of those with the greatest power to maintain the current systems which keep them in power, and to resist and punish anything which threatens, diminishes, questions or challenges their status and power - even if it would benefit the whole group.

 

The group benefits if it has rules which ensure that people act in the group's interests, and punishes people for breaking those rules.  And I benefit personally if I can gain from breaking those rules without getting caught.   

 

My group is not the only group, but my success is only tied to the success of my group.  Just as I am in competition with the other members of my group, so my group is in competition with other groups for the local resources; only once society is far developed does cooperation between groups start to provide me with any significant benefit, so I am by nature tribal - I understand success instinctively in terms of the success of my tribe, which basically means beating the other tribes when we come into contact with them.

 

All of these pressures drive me to harm other members of my group at times, and members of other groups when I get the chance.

 

A "higher power" - the imposition of righteousness

In addition, I may find myself driven to harm others, if I am pursuing a moral goal, a so-called 'greater good', and it then becomes necessary from my point of view for (other) people to be harmed in the process.  Utilitarianism is the default tool for many when making ethical choices, and it tells us we must harm others when, by doing so, we can obtain a greater good for the majority.  This turns out to be the case, surprisingly often.

 

Summary

Some of the factors which conspire to make this a worse world include entropy, selfishness, hierarchy, tribalism as well as a "higher purpose".

 

 

 

Comments (1)

markinpowys@... said

at 6:04 pm on Jun 14, 2021

There is a cross over with some of my comments about suffering, in particular I suggested that treating others as they'd wish to be treated is a pragmatic way to try and ensure I will be treated well. However there is another way of looking at it as Brian says, if my behaviour/reaction towards people who treat me badly is sufficiently scary, it could work the other way.

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