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When people discuss difficult subjects, one of the constant problems is that they talk at cross-purposes because they use words to mean significantly different things.  This is not an attempt to define the 'real' meaning of these words, but a request that we try to use them consistently, so if we still disagree, then at least we know what we are disagreeing about.

  • Belief
  • Faith
  • Freedom.  There are two basic kinds of freedom.
    1. The state of not being controlled, sometimes called 'freedom to'.  The big question is: controlled or limited by what?  People have argued about the true meaning of 'freedom' since the year dot, primarily because it does not have a single meaning: while there are connections between the various possible meanings, the actual meaning of the term is largely determined by the context in which it is used.  When a prisoner says, "I want to be free," they may be referring to a desire to be released (or, perhaps, escape) from the prison.  When a teenager says, "I want to be free," they may be referring to a desire to wear what they choose, and to be able to go out without their parents asking where they are going, and return at whatever time they choose.  When a writer in a police state says, "I want to be free," they may be referring to the desire to be able to write and publish what they choose without being censored.  The meaning of 'freedom' for each one is determined by the nature of the control they are seeking to escape.  Our individual freedoms are in conflict: if you are free to play loud music, and choose to exercise your freedom in a concert hall, then I am not free to listen to the string quartet playing in that hall.
    2. The state of not being restricted by external conditions, sometimes called 'freedom from'.  We can talk about setting people free from conditions such as hunger, fear or ignorance. Freedom from is only achieved by limiting freedom to: we can only ensure that all children are educated by removing the freedom of parents to not educate their children; we can only be free to drive on the road without fear by removing our freedom to drive on whatever side of the road we choose.
  • Knowledge
  • Materialism.  The belief that reality consists entirely of material objects and the forces associated with them. According to materialism, there is no such thing as an immaterial soul, and entities such as mind or consciousness are by-products of material processes. 
  • Religion.  Organized spirituality.
  • Secular
  • Science
  • Spirituality

 

Comments (4)

markinpowys@... said

at 8:22 pm on Jul 9, 2021

Religion is belief in a god or gods and the activities that are connected with this belief, such as praying or worshipping in a building such as a church or temple. A religion is a particular system of belief in a god or gods and the activities that are connected with this system. This is the most common definition.

Paul Hazelden said

at 12:25 pm on Jul 10, 2021

Going down the Wikipedia route ...

"Religion is a social-cultural system of designated behaviors and practices, morals, beliefs, worldviews, texts, sanctified places, prophecies, ethics, or organizations, that relates humanity to supernatural, transcendental, and spiritual elements; however, there is no scholarly consensus over what precisely constitutes a religion. Different religions may or may not contain various elements ranging from the divine, sacred things, faith, a supernatural being or supernatural beings or "some sort of ultimacy and transcendence that will provide norms and power for the rest of life"."

I know it's a common assumption, but many religions have no gods.

markinpowys@... said

at 8:23 pm on Jul 9, 2021

Wikipedia defines belief as this:

A belief is a firm thought that something is true, often based on revelation. Belief is usually a part of belonging to a religion. It is different to scientific knowledge that can be tested, but belief is not able to be tested. For example, a person may believe in God or gods. The word is also used to describe what a person expects will happen based on limited information. For example, "I believe Amy will come around today". Belief is also something you believe in but you cannot prove exactly.

markinpowys@... said

at 8:25 pm on Jul 9, 2021

I don't accept the common attempts from those who seek to make a strong differentiation between faith and belief. There is huge overlap and in most circumstances the words are interchangeable. Merriam Webster's definition of faith:

: allegiance to duty or a person : LOYALTY
lost faith in the company's president
b(1): fidelity to one's promises
(2): sincerity of intentions
acted in good faith
2a(1): belief and trust in and loyalty to God
(2): belief in the traditional doctrines of a religion
b(1): firm belief in something for which there is no proof
clinging to the faith that her missing son would one day return
(2): complete trust
3: something that is believed especially with strong conviction
especially : a system of religious beliefs
the Protestant faith
on faith
: without question
took everything he said on faith

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